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Old 04-02-2020, 10:40 AM
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Maybe HIPAA can be temporarily suspended for now so government can track those infected?


Or at least exempt COVID tracking from HIPPA
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Try not to be too harsh. Not sure if you have children but missing their birth is nearly unimaginable.
More or less unimaginable than holding your newborn while you simultaneously give them COVID-19?
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Old 04-02-2020, 10:58 AM
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Try not to be too harsh. Not sure if you have children but missing their birth is nearly unimaginable.
I can imagine it [I mean, obviously, I was there, but Stu missed one of the kid's because he had to drop off our other child with a relative.] And my own dad wasn't there for my birth [hospital policy at the time]. He met me soon after. You've got years to get acquainted.
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This is a very interesting article. Basically the chances of dying with coronavirus infection are pretty closely aligned to the normal mortality rate for all causes at each age group. They estimate about 2/3's of folks who will die of coronavirus would have died anyway this year. They also estimate the recession coming will drop about 3 months off total life expectancy for all who are currently alive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/healt...mpression=true
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Prof Neil Ferguson, the lead modeller at Imperial College London, has suggested it could be up to two-thirds.
I assume that's the same Imperial College model that gained all the attention with the 2.2 million deaths.
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The State of WA DOH COVID-19 reporting database was overwhelmed with the volume of tests reporting. Apparently because it had previously been designed to only handle the positive results. It's hard to imagine a data model that gets overwhelmed with 70,000 records. What the heck were they using? An Excel spreadsheet from a 2005 version of the software?
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Note the identity of the person who estimated the 2/3.

I assume that's the same Imperial College model that gained all the attention with the 2.2 million deaths.
Oh so it's only increasing older-age mortality a mere 50%?!? NBD!
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:15 AM
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The State of WA DOH COVID-19 reporting database was overwhelmed with the volume of tests reporting. Apparently because it had previously been designed to only handle the positive results. It's hard to imagine a data model that gets overwhelmed with 70,000 records. What the heck were they using? An Excel spreadsheet from a 2005 version of the software?
That may seem crazy, but medical and government software can be way behind the times.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:20 AM
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The State of WA DOH COVID-19 reporting database was overwhelmed with the volume of tests reporting. Apparently because it had previously been designed to only handle the positive results. It's hard to imagine a data model that gets overwhelmed with 70,000 records. What the heck were they using? An Excel spreadsheet from a 2005 version of the software?
Local article addressing this. If accurate, the biggest technical issue has been duplicated negative reports which had to been fixed manually. But it also sounds like no one was thinking ahead in the earlier stages about the kinds of volume they'd need to deal with so they were utterly unprepared when the problems hit.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...o-lag-in-data/
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:21 AM
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I am going to copy the story below.



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fwiw, part of the reason I copy over the stories is convenience, but mostly it's for me 10 years from now. I've had too many links/info from the past get broken, so it helps to have the text when I go back later.

Yes, the graphics often get lost, but that's not my concern right now.
I agree that the right way to measure the mortality impact of COVID 19 is to look at the excess deaths vs. expected deaths as many would have died this year anyway. But expected deaths will decrease as motor vehicle (and other) accidents will certainly drop. Suicides and opioid overdose will increase. Maybe compare it to the expected number of deaths due to disease.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:22 AM
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The State of WA DOH COVID-19 reporting database was overwhelmed with the volume of tests reporting. Apparently because it had previously been designed to only handle the positive results. It's hard to imagine a data model that gets overwhelmed with 70,000 records. What the heck were they using? An Excel spreadsheet from a 2005 version of the software?
Possibly an ancient mainframe, with less computing power than a $200 smartphone. Or some old Pentium 3 server running OS/2.
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