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I really liked Moby-Dick, but I wouldn't give it to teenagers to read.
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GE is one Dickens's shortest novels. [Oliver Twist, Tale of Two Cities, and Hard Times are shorter]

DC is his longest.
Not nearly short enough for my HS English class, which had a fair number of stereotypical HS athletes in it. They might have tolerated "A Christmas Carol", but that's about it. Honestly, I think the only book the class as a whole approved of was "The Outsiders". They liked GG for its length, but not for the content. Outsiders was short AND about young folks AND hit 'em in the feels.
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Are you talking Ark? I just started playing with my brother and it's quite relaxing in its way.
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No, I think Helena is talking about Horizon Zero Dawn
Arroway is right... but tell me more about Ark!
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I don't understand this comment. I mix my genres, but why assume "literature" is not enjoyable or escapism? Loving Three Musketeers.

How do you define "literature"? Just because it could have been assigned in school, doesn't mean it was bad
It has more to do with genre than anything else. I favor sci-fi and fantasy... and none of that really falls into the heading of "literature".

There've been some classical literature that I enjoyed, but most of them feel like they've got some deep meaningful lesson to teach, which is kind of the opposite of why I read
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I think my real issue is I usually just don't find compelling pulp compelling enough. I get bored and start thinking about chasing dinosaurs or correcting people's politics instead, and then I go do that.
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Stuff from High school I loved or at least liked:
Lord of the Flies, Julius Caesar, Grapes of Wrath, the Song of Roland, Inherit the Wind, Crime and Punishment

Stuff from high school I loathed:
The Red Badge of Courage, the Great Gatsby, Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

side note -- when my older sister was in high school, someone's mom tried to get Grapes of Wrath removed from the curriculum as indecent and inappropriate.
The Red Badge of Courage was horrible. I read it in high school, and it was painful to get through. Then I read it again as an adult, thinking that maybe I was just too immature to understand what a brilliant piece of literature it was.

Nope. Still horrible and painful to get through.
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Oh... It's a multiplayer sandboxy survival game, more akin to no man's sky, 7 days to die, subnautica, or rust. There's no story, that I'm aware of. But you definitely spend a lot if time running after/from (sometimes cybernetic) dinosaurs with various weapons. You can also tame and ride them.
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I liked Moby Dick, and Lord of the Flies, and The Scarlet Letter. But everything I've read by Dickens was horribly disappointing and dull to me.
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For most of these books, I hated them only because I was being forced to read them. And to write essays about them. And discuss them in class.

There have been very few books I've read that I've wanted to throw across the room. As an adult, there was only one novel I just set down in disgust halfway through [the Devil Wears Prada]. Usually, even for books I consider meh, I will power through to the end.
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For most of these books, I hated them only because I was being forced to read them. And to write essays about them. And discuss them in class.

There have been very few books I've read that I've wanted to throw across the room. As an adult, there was only one novel I just set down in disgust halfway through [the Devil Wears Prada]. Usually, even for books I consider meh, I will power through to the end.
I read a lot of popular fiction (too much?). I abandon often. I read as an escape. Some of my abandoning is due to stress, some I abandon because I hate the book. Both situations reduce my enjoyment and escapism.

(BTW, not really sure how to define stress with respect to reading. Examples for me include The hate u give and a book by jodi Piccoult (?) which dealt with donor babies. )
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