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Q1. Should SoA/CAS work with actuarial bodies done for racism?

Q2. Why won't SoA/CAS actuaries petition their professional bodies to suspend arrangements until racist policies are terminated?
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Q1. Should SoA/CAS work with actuarial bodies done for racism?

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Q1: loaded question
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Q1. Should SoA/CAS work with actuarial bodies done for racism?

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For those of us not in the UK, could you explain what you mean in Q1 by "done for racism"? This is an expression with which I am not familiar and I would guess others aren't either.

Again, for us SOA or CAS members, could you clearly describe which actuarial bodies are guilty of "racist policies" and provide more clarity around what those "racist policies" are/were?

Most of us are busy professionals, with limited time & emotional capital to invest, so you need to sell us on why we should invest it here.
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Q1: loaded question
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This is a better answer than mine.
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I don't understand what either question is asking so can't answer.

Does that help?
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For those of us not in the UK, could you explain what you mean in Q1 by "done for racism"? This is an expression with which I am not familiar and I would guess others aren't either.

Again, for us SOA or CAS members, could you clearly describe which actuarial bodies are guilty of "racist policies" and provide more clarity around what those "racist policies" are/were?

Most of us are busy professionals, with limited time & emotional capital to invest, so you need to sell us on why we should invest it here.
I think I can answer.

"Done for racism" means roughly "was caught at being racist", or "was found guilty of being racist".

Also, the specific finding that he is referring to is that the IFoA was sanctioned by a UK court for unfair discrimination in favor of Indian citizens because due to a loophole with a complicated history, Indian citizens but not others could take substantially similar actuarial exams from both the IFoA and the Indian Actuarial Association (or some name like that -- the official Indian actuarial body) and since they weren't given on the same day, that mean that Indian citizens could have 4 chances in a year of passing a specific exam, rather than just the 2 chances that other got.

Wow, that was a really long sentence. Sorry. I don't have time to write it more clearly now, but if that was confusing I'll try again later.

Oh -- and to make sense of his claim, you need to know that the OP believes that discrimination on the basis of citizenship is a form of racism.
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