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Old 08-26-2019, 04:45 PM
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Hi,

I've been lurking here for a year or two gathering intel on the field. Here's my first post to ask for help.

Here are some wrinkles that I have to work around:

My original undergraduate/graduate education was messy, and involved going back to school repeatedly because I was young and didn't know what else to do. I dropped out of grad school in anthropology because I was didn't have the material, financial or personal resources and it was a terrible investment anyway. I've made much better decisions since then, but I don't really want to spell all of this out on the resume. It would take up more space and be better explained in verbally.

I left teaching and then waited before working as a wildland firefighter for a season. It was a lot of fun, and I'd love to do it again, but I'm a little old to pursue a real career in the field (they won't hire for permanent positions after a certain age) and my partner wasn't too happy with not seeing me all summer. Given the seasonal nature of firefighting this created a "gap" on my resume. How can I avoid or mitigate this being a red flag?

As a post-bacc career changer, do I have a shot at an internship? Or do I need to just hold off until I graduate and compete for EL positions without one?

General advice is don't put down skills you don't have. But here we have a year between applying and starting the internship. How should I handle the fact that I will have acquired more technical skills through coursework during this school year before an internship commences?

Thank you!

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Old 08-28-2019, 04:04 PM
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I think you definitely need at least another exam , potentially 2-3 more.
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:56 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm just looking for an internship at this point. I should have another exam within a few months, but it's already intern application season so it has to go out now.
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Old 08-30-2019, 03:01 PM
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As a career changer, you will be asked for more than the average EL applicant.

2-3 more exams as has been suggested is accurate.

After that however, what skills do you bring to the table?

You need to have a plausible story for your educational history as well.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm just looking for an internship at this point. I should have another exam within a few months, but it's already intern application season so it has to go out now.
This is one of the problems that comes with the saturation of the labor market at the entry level, imo; people getting desperate and looking for internships when there are plenty of full-time jobs open that aren't actuarial. This is why I always tell people not to limit their search to actuarial, unless for whatever reason they are really REALLY interested in insurance (I've yet to meet someone at entry level who really is); the field just isn't THAT special.
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I wouldn't worry about internships. Focus on passing exams while working full time.

And "EL season" isn't just in the late spring/summer. For many companies, it's constant.

Best thing is to get your resume out to people. Start developing your network. Apply "everywhere" regardless of whether or not they have a position "posted".
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And "EL season" isn't just in the late spring/summer. For many companies, it's constant.
Many or some? At the large employers I have worked for, EL season is based entirely upon the school calendar. Every EL position is fed from the internship program, and as those people quit over the years, their positions at higher levels open.

Iíve long thought there are problems with this, but employers are so flooded with candidates that they can run this approach without even having to think about it.
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Many or some? At the large employers I have worked for, EL season is based entirely upon the school calendar. Every EL position is fed from the internship program, and as those people quit over the years, their positions at higher levels open.

Iíve long thought there are problems with this, but employers are so flooded with candidates that they can run this approach without even having to think about it.
My point is that it's not necessary to wait until a certain time to send in a resume. I'm sure that at some companies, a given candidate might have to wait until the "window" opens to get hired. Doesn't mean that their application is invalid if sent in now and an updated resume is sent later.
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What non-actuarial jobs would you recommend for someone with two exams, two engineering degrees that are more than fifteen years old, and few other qualifications? I would gladly take a potential stepping-stone job over my current job, but I have not found any non-actuarial jobs that list exams as a qualification.

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What non-actuarial jobs would you recommend for someone with two exams, two engineering degrees that are more than fifteen years old, and few other qualifications? I would gladly take a potential stepping-stone job over my current job, but I have not found any non-actuarial jobs that list exams as a qualification.
Data science, software development, etc.

These jobs are in high demand, prevalent in pretty much every industry, and have wide geographic flexibility.

Actuarial is a backwater that’s relevant only for insurance.

ETA: you won’t find non-actuarial jobs that list exams as a qualification because other fields couldn’t give a shit less about the exams. Yet another reason the exam process is a complete waste of time.
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