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Old 02-15-2012, 11:36 AM
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Hello. I am a newer to filling actuary professional openings. I must ask you, how would you like to be approached with a new career opportunity? Realizing that you do get many calls, but at some point, the right call will reach you. It may be me. What is the most respectful way to introduce myself and speak with you?
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:13 PM
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always use your real name on the call
state that you are a recruiter
and then ask if it is a good time to chat, if this is the right number to call us at, or if we would prefer an email instead.
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always use your real name on the call
state that you are a recruiter
and then ask if it is a good time to chat, if this is the right number to call us at, or if we would prefer an email instead.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:25 PM
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You'll have to convince me that you have my best interests in mind over your own. Otherwise, there is no need to discuss anything.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:44 PM
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You'll have to convince me that you have my best interests in mind over your own.
Do you ever believe that of anybody? I don't.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:50 PM
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I agree with the previous posts. I would add two additional points:

If I have a hard time understanding you I will be less likely to give you my time.

Get to the point quickly. It drives me crazy when I get calls and the recruiter starts out with small talk "how are you doing today? How was your weekend? etc."
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Do you ever believe that of anybody? I don't.
I never said it was possible.

I had someone call me recently, but I'm happy with where I am, and a move would likely be much more risk than reward. So, she took my vitals (same address, same phone numbers) and moved on.

Oh, and to answer another poorly veiled question: no I don't know "anybody" who would be interested in your opportunity. Not unless I get a cut of your commission, of course. Help you do your job, BAH!
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Do you ever believe that of anybody? I don't.
The operative concept is "convince me", not "prove beyond a shadow of a doubt".
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Don't offer email-I hit delete button real quick on those. If person says it not a good time to talk, offer to call them at home (or on cell) and ask them when might be a good time to talk back, and do they prefer home or office. I assume you will have some job listings available to talk to them about. It would help if you had some idea of the person's background, so could reference a specific position or two that might be appropriate. either way, be honest, say you'[d like a bit more info for future reference. if you really hit it off, ask for copy of their resume (maybe offer to review it) but emphasize it only for your own purposes, and would never release it unless he agrees to it in a specific situation (and be 10000% honest in such a statement).

In any event, be prepared for some response along the lines of "i'm not interested" click.
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More on the subject:
We know you're looking for someone to fill a position so you get your commission check.
But, the person you're looking for has to be willing to look at other opportunities, inferring that he/she is not as happy at his/her job as he/she could be.

So, one quick question you can ask: "Are you happy at your current position?" A "yes" means you can move on to the next person after getting vitals (e-mail, work discipline, etc.), and call once a year or so to ask the same simple question.

I use recruiters when I am not happy with my current job and am looking for a new job. I really have no other use for them.
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