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Old 02-22-2020, 07:01 PM
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Has anyone ever struggled with SAS? Iím taking a class for it and itís so many things to remember.
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The software? Yeah it's pretty painful to learn at the start. Can probably help if you have a specific question.
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The software? Yeah it's pretty painful to learn at the start. Can probably help if you have a specific question.
Studying for actuary exams is easier lol
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Has anyone ever struggled with SAS? Iím taking a class for it and itís so many things to remember.
The learning curve for SAS is steep, and it throws errors like a fountain when you're first learning it. That passes. Once you get a feel for the parameter section of the block syntax, it'll get easier.

The macro language is fairly straightforward (at least I thought so).

Get the Little SAS Book, if you don't already have it; it'll help make things easier, and it's a pretty handy reference guide.
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The learning curve for SAS is steep, and it throws errors like a fountain when you're first learning it. That passes. Once you get a feel for the parameter section of the block syntax, it'll get easier.

The macro language is fairly straightforward (at least I thought so).

Get the Little SAS Book, if you don't already have it; it'll help make things easier, and it's a pretty handy reference guide.
I have that book but my professor doesn’t follow it, he just has example up and tells us to practice and barely explains it. It’s like he assumes we all know it. It’s hard to get time to study for P exam when I’m taking a sas class.

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SAS is a very general, broad, and flexible statistical tool. It's also developed by a bunch of teams that "maintain" the underlying code for various procedures; the number of teams is rather large and they don't always "communicate" effectively to make their documentation robust enough to point out areas where a novice might get confused with various Statements within a given procedure (e.g., the BY statement has slightly different effects when used within a Procedure (like proc sort) vs. when used within a data step).

It's "programming flow" is also very different from other "programming languages". That is, knowing how "program flow" works in, say, Python, doesn't help at all with understanding how SAS processes.

Oddly enough, I did find a similarity with how TeX (not necessarily LaTeX) operates to what SAS does (especially when you start considering the macro facility of SAS).

IMO, if you're struggling, I would suggest doing a bit of a deep dive in understanding the Data Step as this is very central to the rest of how SAS works and processes code and data.
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It's kind of like studying for an actuary exam.. Not much gets done when you're only half interested.. If you put your heart and soul in it, you'll figure it out.
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SAS is a very general, broad, and flexible statistical tool.

IMO, if you're struggling, I would suggest doing a bit of a deep dive in understanding the Data Step as this is very central to the rest of how SAS works and processes code and data.
Both of these...SAS is very powerful but the expert software tool requires expert configuration.

Time spent with the Data Step is time very well spent - suggest understanding key SAS foundational conventions - e.g., how it counts, measures dates, etc. - mundane items some might typically assume conform to MS conventions.
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