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Old 02-25-2020, 01:42 PM
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Can i give you a tiny piece of advice? Say, "yes".

"Hey, Lucy, can i pour you a glass of wine?"
"Oh thanks, could I get seltzer, instead?"
Usually, that's the end of the conversation. But if it continues
"Huh, why not wine?"
"I'd just prefer seltzer right now, thanks"

Then you're not making any philosophical statement. You aren't announcing your goals. You aren't implicitly judging those who are drinking. You are just saying that at this moment in time you would prefer to drink seltzer.
I wonder if this is a regional thing. I never hear seltzer. It's just sparkling water.
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I wonder if this is a regional thing.
Definitely in the NYC area you'd get seltzer
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ask for eau avec gaz or eau pétillante
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Green tea has caffeine, so you were still avoiding the withdrawal.

Do 3 days without any caffeine.
I just did this past weekend (Fri-Sun). No effects that I noticed.

Although I'm not sure caffeine affects me quite the same as most people. I've never really felt a "kick" from normal doses of caffein. I just can't sleep well at night if I have it after noon.

I do remember one time I got one of those frappacino type drinks from a DD. The taste was super strong (I think the guy made the whole thing with espresso). An hour later, I was sitting at my computer and realized I couldn't close my eyes and my pulse was noticeably elevated. I threw the rest of the drink away.
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I just did this past weekend (Fri-Sun). No effects that I noticed.

Although I'm not sure caffeine affects me quite the same as most people. I've never really felt a "kick" from normal doses of caffein. I just can't sleep well at night if I have it after noon.

I do remember one time I got one of those frappacino type drinks from a DD. The taste was super strong (I think the guy made the whole thing with espresso). An hour later, I was sitting at my computer and realized I couldn't close my eyes and my pulse was noticeably elevated. I threw the rest of the drink away.
Fair enough. It seems caffeine affects different people quite differently. In my experience the "I need a morning coffee!" crowd tend to be more those who are groggy from caffeine withdrawal.
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caffeine is a very strong drug for me, i drink a few cups every day

i've never come off cold turkey, only by taper
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Definitely in the NYC area you'd get seltzer
I didn't want salsa, I asked for seltzer!
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bold #1 - not wanting a particular beverage is a philosophical statement? if they think it is, that's their problem. if you are indeed making a philosophical statement by not having a particular beverage, go away and leave me alone

bold #2 - not wanting a particular beverage is an implicit judgement? if that's their inference, that's their problem. if that's your implication, go away and leave me alone

sure, like everybody else on the planet, i care some about what others think of me, but there's a limit. beverage choice doesn't make my cut

don't cede so much power over your emotional well-being to others
I'm sure you've come across this, people who drink heavily see the choice to not drink as an implicit criticism of their behaviour. It definitely says more about them than those they criticize, but can still be unwelcome to those criticized.
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Yeah, it's not a big deal, but over time it's a lot of pressure, especially when you're trying to fit in. Especially when it involves coworkers.
This. In my first job, I went out after work with a group of coworkers. EVERYONE asked me why I wasn't drinking. They said I needed to "loosen up". One guy got super pissed at me because I wouldn't let him buy me a drink.
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bold #1 - not wanting a particular beverage is a philosophical statement? if they think it is, that's their problem. if you are indeed making a philosophical statement by not having a particular beverage, go away and leave me alone

bold #2 - not wanting a particular beverage is an implicit judgement? if that's their inference, that's their problem. if that's your implication, go away and leave me alone

sure, like everybody else on the planet, i care some about what others think of me, but there's a limit. beverage choice doesn't make my cut

don't cede so much power over your emotional well-being to others
I don't have a provlem with people hassling me for not drinking. But nerd alert says she gets flack for it. I was trying to suggest ways for her to reduce that.

You can choose to minimize negative reactions without making any important changes in what you are doing.

The exact words I use to say, "no thank you" are not important to me.
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