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View Poll Results: Should FL allow SYG defense when a teacher shoots a student in class?
Yes, the teachers classroom is their terrority, follow orders or be shot 5 27.78%
Yes, but in very specific situations 1 5.56%
Maybe, let's wait to see how this plays out 0 0%
No, this is crazy 8 44.44%
I'll share my own answer 2 11.11%
42 Guns for everyone, pew pew pew 2 11.11%
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Old 05-06-2019, 04:42 PM
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Default Shuld FL teachers b allowed use of "Stand Your Ground" defense after shooting a child

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Florida to Let Teachers Carry Guns. Will Black Students Pay the Price?
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By Patricia Mazzei
May 2, 2019

MIAMI — The outcome of the vote in the Florida State House this week was a foregone conclusion: A proposal to allow teachers to carry firearms in school would easily win approval.

But that did not mean the debate would not be long and emotional, as Democrats implored Republicans in the majority to consider the possible risks — one of them being teachers with guns who might represent yet another source of risk for black and Latino students.

The tension peaked when Representative Shevrin D. Jones, a Democrat who is African-American, tried unsuccessfully to pass a pair of amendments on the House floor on Tuesday aimed at protecting children from the possibility that an armed teacher in a chaotic situation could assume that a black student was a threat.

One amendment would have required any teacher who volunteers for the so-called school guardian program to be trained in implicit bias, or stereotypes that could unconsciously affect spur-of-the-moment decisions. The other would have prohibited a teacher who shoots a student by mistake in a situation with an active shooter on campus from claiming self-defense under Florida’s Stand Your Ground law.
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I think a far better question (as a starting point) is "what qualifications and training should an individual have and demonstrate to be allowed having a firearm on school premises?".

I do not believe that the FL legislation is going to be useful nor helpful in deterrence of violence on school property. Most people are not going to have the ability to go from "edu-ma-cating the peeps" to "lock-down protection mode against the baddie" in the time available when the threat is present.

What is more is the false sense of "ability" that some will have from their "expertise" with games like Call of Duty and World of Warfare that will not translate to RL.

Very few will have the presence of mind of Agent J when making spot decisions on where and when to shoot.

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Old 05-22-2019, 04:20 PM
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I think a far better question (as a starting point) is "what qualifications and training should an individual have and demonstrate to be allowed having a firearm on school premises?".

I do not believe that the FL legislation is going to be useful nor helpful in deterrence of violence on school property. Most people are not going to have the ability to go from "edu-ma-cating the peeps" to "lock-down protection mode against the baddie" in the time available when the threat is present.

What is more is the false sense of "ability" that some will have from their "expertise" with games like Call of Duty and World of Warfare that will not translate to RL.

Very few will have the presence of mind of Agent J when making spot decisions on where and when to shoot.

shoot the child, she's the only thing out of place in the pic
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I guess glassy's poll didn't work. Too bad.
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